[Fwd: Re: lunar-1.6.4-alpha3-x86_64.iso issues]

[Kok, Auke]

v4hn wrote:
> ev'ning,
> 
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 07:24:37AM +0200, Stefan Wold wrote:
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> From: Stefan Wold <ratler at lunar-linux.org>
>> To: Dennis Veatch <dennisveatch at bellsouth.net>
>> Subject: Re: lunar-1.6.4-alpha3-x86_64.iso issues
>> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:19:36 +0200
>>
>> [...]
>> On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 20:14 -0400, Dennis Veatch wrote:
>>> First. For the longest time the ISO has had reiserfs, XFS and/or JFS built 
>>> into the kernel. The reason for the "and/or" on the last two items, I am not 
>>> sure if one or both were built in. AFAICR, at least two of those were, and I 
>>> am puzzled why they have been moved a module, and forcing a kernel recompile 
>>> on the install to use them. I would really appreciate at least reiserfs 
>>> returned to a built-in. I only bark about this because I have been using 
>>> reiserfs for that past 4 years or so with lunar.
>> This is probably a misstake from my side, I'll fix this for the next
>> release that should be a beta.
> 
> Some time ago there was a discussion in #lunar whether or not reiserfs should
> be build in the kernel, when sofar played around with the kernel-config of the
> iso. Well, he stated no one should use reiserfs anyway because ext3 is much
> more appreciated, more stable, ...
> Quite a lot of people disagreed, but well... sofar had spoken ;)
> so it was left out until now.

there will always be discussions about this, but give the following facts a good
throught:

1) SuSE dropped reiserfs support a long time ago completely and went back to ext3
2) all major distros ship ext3 as default filesystem
3) all netbooks currently being sold (10s of millions this year!) use ext3

I do not see a compelling reason to provide a kernel for NEW installs that BY
DEFAULT supports a filesystem that 99% of new users (my personal estimate) will use.

Those frostbitten dead-cold corpses with their tongues stuck to reiserfs (sorry, I
can't resist) can still rebuild the kernel and install fine. I even added a
warning to the ISO install code to warn them that they should do so (before you
get to the kernel option even), so that problem is also clearly addressed. If that
warning does not work then we should fix that.

Stop saying that 'a lot of people disagreed'. That is nonsense. You don't hear the
200+ million (wild guess) happy ext3 users complain. Now _that_ is a lot of people.

Auke