[Fwd: Re: lunar-1.6.4-alpha3-x86_64.iso issues]

[samuel]

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Kok, Auke <sofar at foo-projects.org> wrote:
> v4hn wrote:
>> ev'ning,
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 07:24:37AM +0200, Stefan Wold wrote:
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> From: Stefan Wold <ratler at lunar-linux.org>
>>> To: Dennis Veatch <dennisveatch at bellsouth.net>
>>> Subject: Re: lunar-1.6.4-alpha3-x86_64.iso issues
>>> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:19:36 +0200
>>>
>>> [...]
>>> On Sun, 2008-09-14 at 20:14 -0400, Dennis Veatch wrote:
>>>> First. For the longest time the ISO has had reiserfs, XFS and/or JFS built
>>>> into the kernel. The reason for the "and/or" on the last two items, I am not
>>>> sure if one or both were built in. AFAICR, at least two of those were, and I
>>>> am puzzled why they have been moved a module, and forcing a kernel recompile
>>>> on the install to use them. I would really appreciate at least reiserfs
>>>> returned to a built-in. I only bark about this because I have been using
>>>> reiserfs for that past 4 years or so with lunar.
>>> This is probably a misstake from my side, I'll fix this for the next
>>> release that should be a beta.
>>
>> Some time ago there was a discussion in #lunar whether or not reiserfs should
>> be build in the kernel, when sofar played around with the kernel-config of the
>> iso. Well, he stated no one should use reiserfs anyway because ext3 is much
>> more appreciated, more stable, ...
>> Quite a lot of people disagreed, but well... sofar had spoken ;)
>> so it was left out until now.
>
> there will always be discussions about this, but give the following facts a good
> throught:
>
> 1) SuSE dropped reiserfs support a long time ago completely and went back to ext3
> 2) all major distros ship ext3 as default filesystem
> 3) all netbooks currently being sold (10s of millions this year!) use ext3
>
> I do not see a compelling reason to provide a kernel for NEW installs that BY
> DEFAULT supports a filesystem that 99% of new users (my personal estimate) will use.
>
> Those frostbitten dead-cold corpses with their tongues stuck to reiserfs (sorry, I
> can't resist) can still rebuild the kernel and install fine. I even added a
> warning to the ISO install code to warn them that they should do so (before you
> get to the kernel option even), so that problem is also clearly addressed. If that
> warning does not work then we should fix that.
>
> Stop saying that 'a lot of people disagreed'. That is nonsense. You don't hear the
> 200+ million (wild guess) happy ext3 users complain. Now _that_ is a lot of people.
>
> Auke

not that i necessarily disagree.... but what about the 6billion ppl using ntfs ?


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