distrowatch script massively outdated and mostly out of sync with Lunar

Zbigniew Luszpinski zbiggy at o2.pl
Thu Jul 14 00:56:10 CEST 2011


> On 07/12/2011 03:07 PM, Zbigniew Luszpinski wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > distrowatch script is out of sync with Lunar's moonbase. We do hard
> > work keeping Lunar up to date and this sleepy head who maintains
> > distrowatch script does nothing.
> 
> oh for crying out loud, you're just begging to get attention again.

My previous posts went unnoticed so I had to do something to raise 
attention. I chose this distro thanks to distrowatch because it had fresh 
packages so that is why I care to be up to date on distrowatch.

> is it relevant? does it mean that lunar is more up to date if we keep
> the always-out-of-date distrowatch mapping up to date?

Yes. Distro watch is good way to show that we are alive and developing. If 
we have current releases why not show them to the world.

> does distrowatch actually TELL US when they update the mapping? no.

OK. Ladislav Bodnar is bad guy. Let's workaround him. I will try to write 
a script which will be downloading and checking full package list on 
distrowatch every 1 second to not miss the point where the list changes.

> should distrowatch do the unmapping themselves in the first place? YES.

You can not fix the World. But you can always fix Lunar to make World 
better. If distrowatch can not be fixed workaround them.

> if we don't update the mapping, does distrowatch insert garbage into
> their website? YES

True. We can not fix them so we have to workaround them.

> I've had enough of this garbage. If distrowatch wants to track distro's,
> they need to do the tracking themselves, he's already running all the
> tools needed to mass-update their database and change the X:Y mapping
> for all distro's at once.

Send me this script. Will look at it when time allows.  We can not fix 
them so we have to workaround them.

> I've rewritten the extract-moonbase-for-ladislav script so that it does
> this:
> 
> - output one line per module, containing $MODULE^$VERSION
> - if it's not in our package list, it's not in the file
> - there is no mapping table. Good luck to distrowatch keeping their own
> mapping table instead.
> - the list isn't sorted in any reasonable way whatsoever
> 
> so, it's up to distrowatch themselves whether to decide to grep for
> firefox5 or firefox. I'm not going to play that game anymore.
> 
> If you don't like it, bitch to distrowatch to fix their end. I'm done
> playing games with distrowatch.
> 
> Auke

Now there is more mess than was before. This drives us nowhere.
Send me pm where this script is and distrowatch table. Give +w access and 
I will maintain this stuff if I'll find the time. I do not care if 
Ladislav Bodnar is good guy or bad guy. Distrowatch sync may be broken but 
site is useful. Not only I chosen Lunar thanks to it but also use it to 
track which modules needs update. Now distrowatch Lunar's list is complete 
mess - I do not want read it.

have a nice day,
Zbigniew Luszpinski



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