Old modules

[Zbigniew Luszpinski]

> i've seen, that there are over 800 old modules in moonbase (Updated
> 2000-2004). Here you'll find a list:
>
> 	http://www.ip-minds.de/oldmodules.txt
>
> I tried yesterday to update some of this modules - but most of them aren't
> really maintained, have no mirrors, or aren't really useful.

False. Some of these modules are maintained but never commited to moonbase.
Their official life ends in queue on lunar general discussion list or svn 
at ./submissions/new. After 3 ignored submissions such module is never again 
submited. I was told that lunar developers are very busy so I neither bother 
with submitting module updates which never took any attention nor ask what is 
wrong with such module. I appreciate your work and do not want to disturb it. 
However such orphan modules continue to live in underground zlocal directory 
exchange between interested users. This zlocal 'mini moonbase' is called 
'satellite' because its content circles around official moonbase but never 
lands in it :-)

First examples from your list lying around my desktop shortcuts:
LGDL = Lunar's General Discussion List

./sql/mysql++/DETAILS
moonbase version: 1.7.9  Last Updated:  20020314
satellite version: 1.7.40 Last Updated:  20050726
should be at lunar's svn submissions/new (I dropped later posting to svn->new 
because mailing list is more efficient and casual users can use such module 
immediatly without waiting for updated moonbase and add to own satellite)

./audio/mikmod/DETAILS
moonbase version: 3.2.1  Last Updated:  20041018
satellite version: 3.2.2-beta1 Last Updated:  20060723
posted to LGDL at 23/07/2006 21:08
why posted:
Present  mikmod 3.2.1 immediatly quits itself during using menu controls.
This beta version fixes menu bugs and provides colour interface in place of 
old black and white one. Old BW menu is still available for mikmod 
oldsk00lers. Changed tar.gz to tar.bz2 archive for faster downloads.
This update updates mikmod to beta version but I found it less buggy and more 
stable than non-beta one.

./zbeta/xforms/DETAILS
moonbase version: 1.0  Last Updated:  20030911
satellite version: 1.0.90 Last Updated:  20060722
posted to LGDL at 23/07/2006 00:20
why posted:
The xforms version included in moonbase/zbeta breaks itself during canvas file 
compilation. After fixing this bug, library works but application using it 
prefer development version of this library so again troubles appears during 
compilation of application.
This update to more recent version of library fixes all these issues so 
everything works now.

./printer/foomatic-filters/DETAILS
moonbase version: 3.0.2  Last Updated:  20041116
satellite version: 3.0-20060823  Last Updated: 20060823
posted to LGDL no

./net/ntp/DETAILS
moonbase version: 4.2.0  Last Updated:  20040214
satellite version: 4.2.2  Last Updated: 20060715
posted to LGDL 16/07/2006 00:06
why posted:
Small bugfixes, updates and cleanups.

There are some new modules which was posted to LGDL but were not commited too.
For example mozilla seamonkey which is replacement for dropped by mozilla team 
mozilla classic. Using mozilla classic today is hazardous to computer health 
due to known scurity flaws that will never be fixed in this retired 
application.

./web/seamonkey/DETAILS (planned)
moonbase version: ---  Last Updated:  -----------
satellite version: 1.0.4  Last Updated: 20060715 Entered: 20051208
posted to LGDL 22/02/2006 21:37
why posted:
1. Security reasons
2. Modern rendering engine
3. New features

> So my question:
>
> Whats about a special maillinglist like lunar-old-modules where some ppl
> can try update this list, and discuss about old and unuseful modules?

If there is problem with focusing developers attention on one users list, 
another list will not help. It can make things worse.

> And we would do this only for 'old and broken' modules to keep the moonbase
> 'fresh'.

If you have any broken module I can check my satellite or ask other if someone 
have such module fixed in own satellite.

have a nice day,
zbiggy