'Aggressive' Kernel ?

[Kenny Mann]

Filesystems don't really matter. I've successfully
installed on XFS, ReiserFS, Ext2, and Ext3.
I've heard of a couple ways to compile the kernel from
source, the way I use is: 

make dep && make clean && make bzImage && make install
&& make modules && make modules_install

(all one line)

There are some other debated ways, but this is a
common method and works for most people.

As far as it missing the UFS filesystem, don't worry
about that one. I'll reply again with why in an hour
or two, but it's almost time I go, so I'll write what
I can while I can. ;-)

For a hardcore Linux distribution like Lunar, there
are allot of warnings if not installed correctly. Bu
they are as they are... Warnings. It if fails to load
the UFS, so long as you get to a prompt, it just means
something weird is going on. If you incorrectly set
something up bad, you would most likely know it really
quick. ;-)

Although I haven't tried aggressive patch myself, I
will when I get home. I will try to do a transform to
aggressive and a fresh-install aggressive. See if
somehow the kernel rebuilds aren't working for some
unkown reason.

I'll be in the #lunar channel around 5:30-6:30 CST or
23:30-0:30 GMT (I think that's right for GMT time...)
I'll report anything special or quirky as I install
it.

As for the tulip driver, I'm looking for a NIC card
that uses one.. Once I find one I'll let ya know. :-)

--Kenny Mann
Later and Good Luck! (sorry for the horrid
grammer/spelling)



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Adney [mailto:groundrush at cogeco.ca]
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 6:19 PM
> To: lunar at lunar-linux.org
> Subject: Re: 'Aggressive' Kernel ?
> 
> 
> Hi. A brief background to give all an idea of where
I'm at, and I'll
> try to be less verbose in the future. I'll also try
and keep to one 
> topic per post when possible, but at this stage I'm
not really sure 
> what is interacting with what.
> 
> I've been fooling with computers since 1977, was VP
of MIS for a large

> transportation company (mainframe) for a decade (the
1980s decade);
> I've probably written close to 100K lines of COBOL
in my life. I quite

> literally used to write COBOL in my dreams. I'm a
hi-time Windows
> user; I've been fooling with Linux for about a year
now, mainly 
> Mandrake, although I've played with about 3 or 4
other distros, as 
> well. Of course, I've been dual-booting.
> 
> About 3 weeks ago I tried the "don't boot Windows
for a month" test
> after Bill Gates ate 2 wks worth of email AGAIN. I
guess I failed; I 
> couldn't go a month. I removed the Windows partition
about a week ago.
> ;)
> 
> I now have Mandrake 9.0 installed as my 'primary'
O/S (running it to
> write this). I researched distros pretty heavily,
and it appears that 
> the SGL branch has exactly the characteristics I'm
looking for in a 
> Linux distro, and that Lunar is the least
politically infected fork of

> the SGL branch (PLEASE correct me if Im wrong here).
I hope Lunar will

> soon be my primary O/S.
> 
> Enough of that.
> 
> I have a 350 MHz P2 w/448MB mem, 10GB HD, no-name
GeoForce2 MX400
> video, local LAN w/3 other stations, including my
laptop, behind a 
> Mandrake SNF firewall to a cable modem (a terrific
firewall using a 
> 60MHz P1 w/32MB ;). I've given Lunar a 1-cylinder
boot partition (1st 
> cyl is Mandrake /boot at hda1; 2nd is Lunar /boot at
hda2, Mandrake 
> root is hda5, Lunar has a single root partition of
about 4GB at hda6, 
> and yes I realize that's tight). I configured a 1GB
SWAPFILE in the 
> root partition. I also have a 1.5GB HD; I'm using
256MB for the 
> Mandrake swap partition and the rest is a
/home/shared partition for 
> common storage w/Mandrake. If anyone thinks its a
better way I could 
> always put the swapfile on that drive (but I assume
it has to be a 
> swap FILE, within a partition, not a PARTITION, as
Mandrake would try 
> to use it if it was a partition?). That would give
Lunar another 1GB+ 
> in its root partition.
> 
> I've installed Lunar via CD-ROM about 5 or 6 times
now. The initial
> install and kernel compile always go fine, but at
the end I'm always 
> left with an "aggressive" kernel, ie,
"vmlinubz-2.4.20-r1-aggressive" 
> (that is from memory, might not be verbatim but I
imagine y'all get 
> the idea). It boots fine, but when I try to load my
NIC module 
> (vanilla NIC which uses the tulip driver and runs
fine w/Mandrake), it

> tells me that the tulip driver was compiled for a
vanilla kernel, but
> I'm using an aggressive kernel...
> 
> I've fooled w/Linux for some time now, but as most
of it is on
> Mandrake, I've never actually compiled a kernel. ;)
I assume I'm 
> incorrectly setting or resetting some option in the
kernel config 
> screens, but I have no idea what option(s). Each
time I've tried to be

> more and more "conservative" (as *I* see it!) in my
option selections,

> but the end result's always the same: I can't load
my NIC and
> therefore can't do much except play with bash.
> 
> Would it help if I listed all the kernel compile
options I selected,
> or is this a no-brainer for someone who knows Lunar?
I'm assuming the 
> latter...
> 
> What filesystems are required? I'm using (trying,
anyway ;) reiserfs
> on my root partitions, and on /home/shared; /boot is
ext2. I've 
> deselected most of the filesystems I don't use; at
boot time I seem to

> be getting messages complaining about an inability
to read a UMSDOS
> partition; there are no DOS or Windows partitions on
the drive (and 
> I'm certainly not booting from a Windows partition).
It also is 
> complaining about missing the UFS filesystem. I'm
not trying to fix 
> all this at once (or I'd quit being lazy and go get
some logs from the

> Lunar partition), but as I said earlier, I don't
know what's
> interacting with what. Am I removing an fs that
makes the kernel 
> compile 'aggressively'? And, BTW, WTH is an
'aggressive' kernel, 
> anyway? Is it gonna make a pass at my Mandrake
install? ;) It can
> *have* any of my Windows CDs, to do with as it
pleases...I'm quite 
> excited about this distro, if I can just get it
running.
> 
> Blue Skies, and TIA...Keith Adney
> 
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